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post Apr 3 2005, 05:57 PM
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The Semi-Final Playoff Brackets are viewable here.


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post Apr 15 2005, 07:45 PM
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BaconMen will face knife on Sunday evening April 17th at 9:00pmCET for the UGL NS Euro Championship. The Final Playoff Brackets are viewable here. A UGL Admin will be spectating the match. Area51.ns will face off against el`pheer in the "bronze match". Best of luck to all teams in these matches! The map for the finals is ns_origin.

M\\ke and hltv-fr.com are providing the HLTV for this match. You may join HLTV by going to http://www.hltv-fr.com/HLTV/match.php?mid=16622.


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post Apr 17 2005, 04:58 PM
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knife takes the UGL NS Euro Championship!

knife dominated the first half as marines, and closed BaconMen down in about 3 minutes of the second (uneventful) half as aliens as nearly 150 viewed HLTV provided by ns-fr.com. The "bronze" match never materialized as both teams had server issues, and the match was cancelled after a 2 hour wait. The Championship Bracket can be viewed here.


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post Apr 17 2005, 05:42 PM
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Thanks for an awesome tournament, Larry (and the rest of the UGL staff)! Even though interest waned, you still kept at it and gave us an excellent end to a good tournament (something European tournament organizers have a lot to learn from).

Second season aight?
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Thanks Fana, that means a lot to me.

My intention is to leave the league active although the team base has dropped. I would like to initiate some changes though, and am interested in hearing from any interested parties how to make this better. Unique, but better ...


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post Apr 18 2005, 04:04 AM
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yeah, that season was amazing

Here's why :
- Many clan had points of leaving teams, points given to a clan who played vs a dead/inactive clan were NEVER taked off
- I loved pretty much the rules "tie-break" which means no tie during the season, quite stupid rule tbh
- I enjoyed so much the rule "the clan who has most point choose khara or marines in tie-break", so nice rule, why not a second map ?
- Finally, the best thing, that you did all your best to make el-pheer win vs a51, by trying to put on a ratehax programm (yes you can ratehax with rateenforce when you know how to use it) and by doing so, you cancelled the match seing el'pheer couldn't win.
- Last thing, why don't you consider who has the most points in the season to allow the 3rd place ??
I thought that league was a very good one until I saw what happened yesterday, and I'll be glad to sum p all what happened yesterday to someone like Fana or b1, just to have their opinion about that "very good cup"


Btw, I thank BM, knife, RedDog, coldspell (and some I missed) for their sportsmanshit and I still can't understand why I admin try to make win his friends on a cup, GG Larry.

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post Apr 18 2005, 08:08 AM
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I don't agree at all, and from what I've seen your opinion seems horribly biased, Mancunien.

Ratehax with the rateenforcer plugin? What have you been smoking? :\

For what it's worth, I agree with you on the tie breaker rule, especially during group play stages. Although there's no real good way of breaking ties in NS, there are better ways to do it, that don't give one team a big advantage due to their ranking.

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post Apr 18 2005, 08:29 AM
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Many clan had points of leaving teams, points given to a clan who played vs a dead/inactive clan were NEVER taked off

If 2 teams are scheduled to play and 1 of them is deactivated prior to the match (no matter the reason) the remaining team is awarded a forfeit win BUT gets no PF as opposed to a normal win. It would be unfair to the remaining team to give them nothing as it's not their fault their opponent was not available.

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I loved pretty much the rules "tie-break" which means no tie during the season, quite stupid rule tbh

Ties in NS matches will always be a problem and the purpose of the tiebreaker round is to declare a clear winner after 3 rounds. There has been debate as to which team should pick sides for the 3rd round, so we'll consider changing this in the future.

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I enjoyed so much the rule "the clan who has most point choose khara or marines in tie-break", so nice rule, why not a second map ?

Explained above. It would be a poor option to change the map for the 3rd round, as different maps require different strats. All matches played in any given week will be on the same map.

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Finally, the best thing, that you did all your best to make el-pheer win vs a51, by trying to put on a ratehax programm (yes you can ratehax with rateenforce when you know how to use it) and by doing so, you cancelled the match seing el'pheer couldn't win.

The rateenforce plugin was designed for league competition. It's use is currently mandatory in CAL DoD and I believe CAL NS will soon mandate it's use. It limits a player's minimum rates, which has been a problem. The knife vs BaconMen match was played using it, as an example. The a51 vs el`pheer match was cancelled after the 2 teams refused to start the match some 2 hours after match time, and neither team was declared a winner. Both teams were warned and an ultimatum was issued when it became obvious they were being uncooperative regarding petty issues.

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Last thing, why don't you consider who has the most points in the season to allow the 3rd place ??

3rd place will be awarded to Area51.ns in accordance with our current standings.

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I still can't understand why I admin try to make win his friends on a cup, GG Larry.

You delayed the start of this match for 2 hours, on your server because you didn't have CD installed, and on the knife server because you didn't like the rateenforce plugin. At no time did I declare a match winner nor favor either team in attempting to get this match underway.


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QUOTE(Fana @ Apr 18 2005, 08:08 AM)
For what it's worth, I agree with you on the tie breaker rule, especially during group play stages. Although there's no real good way of breaking ties in NS, there are better ways to do it, that don't give one team a big advantage due to their ranking.

We have received some negative feedback on our tiebreaker system and are willing to adjust it to create better parity.

We are open for intelligent suggestions. smile.gif (please start a seperate thread if you desire to do so on here).


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The real intelligent suggestions is to ban that tie breaker rule.
What I think is to make another full map, and the, if score is 2-2, it's a tie (almost the same as the nation cup).

One map, 1-1 ?? >> second map, so 3-1 win or, tie 2-2, that, the best thing to do imo
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